Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Rove and Libby Indictment Probability

Courtesy of John Tierney, the website Intrade will allow you "trade futures" (gamble to most of us) on the whether that Karl Rove and/or Scooter Libby will be indicted by Patrick Fitzgerald before the end of the year. (From the pick-list on the left side of the page, click on "legal" and then "indictments"). This morning, the "odds" were 70-to-30 for a Libby indictment and 56-to-44 for a Rove indictment.

This sort of stuff is fun, but Tierney has a different point: The odds are this high because everyone realizes that a prosecutor armed with virtually unlimited time and resources will always find a crime. In many cases, it will not be the crime that originally launched the investigation, but something else, frequently a crime that is committed as a part of the investigation itself (e.g. lying to a federal official, obstruction of justice, perjury, etc.) or a common practices that can be made out to be a technical violation of some other statute (e.g. disclosure of classified information).

Tierney thinks there is something wrong with this, and so do I. But Tierney's solution is to quit appointing special prosecutors:
The lesson for the public would be: stop appointing special prosecutors. The job can turn a reasonable lawyer into an inquisitor with the zeal of Captain Ahab - even more zeal, actually, because he'll keep hunting even after he learns there's no whale. He'll settle for anything else he can scare up.
But that is not the answer. Absent a special prosecutor, we would have to rely on the Administration to investigate itself. Can you imagine relying on the Nixon Administration investigating Watergate, for instance? Vowing never to appoint a special prosecutor is, effectively, vowing give up on investigating wrongdoing by high federal officials altogether.

But Tierney's general point is well taken. Sooner or later, if the full investigatory power of the government is directed at any individual, a "crime" will be uncovered. For ordinary citizens, the prosecutor will frequently determine that the crime is so minor or technical as to not warrant prosecution. But when the person in the cross hairs is a public figure, especially one as controversial as Karl Rove or Scooter Libby, "ignoring" evidence of a crime becomes very difficult to do, even if the Prosecutor is not someone trying to make a name for himself -- which is itself a rare thing.

Part of the answer, of course, is to not appoint so many special prosecutors. There ought to be some evidence that a "real" crime was actually committed before moving to a special prosecutor. I don't think "outing" Valerie Plame rises to that level.

In the end, though, we have to rely on the ability and willingness of the Prosecutor to exercise some judgment as to when to indict and when not to. One of Tierny's sources believes that Fitzgerald, at least, may have and be willing to exercise such judgment:
Maybe we're all misreading Fitzgerald's diligence. One former federal prosecutor now in private practice told me that Fitzgerald might just be protecting himself, investigating every conceivable offense before concluding that whatever corners were cut, there's no reason to indict.

"Fitzgerald is a lot more solid and experienced than Ken Starr," the former prosecutor told me. "He knows that if you investigate any case long enough, you'll end up with a bunch of witnesses you could accuse of perjury and obstruction of justice. But that doesn't mean you indict them. Real crime is what happens before the investigation starts."
As much as I would like to see Rove and/or Libby go down, I do not want them to go down for a slip of the tongue, or a lapse in memory, or for a "crime" for which anyone in government might just as easily be convicted if subject to the same level of scrutiny. If they go down, I want it to be for something that the man in the street will look at and say, "if those allegations are true, that guy should be in jail."

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Interesting point about always finding a crime - and I agree, but I wish you'd chosen a different backdrop. Libby and Rove, to me, represent the arrogance and disregard for both the law and Americans that is a backbone of this administration. Someone decided to go after a man who spoke out against Bush's reasons for war on Iraq and they decided to punish him. The media coverage of this has dissapointed me in many ways, primarily because no one seems to emphasize the point that the man they went after was RIGHT, and thousands of Americans have died because his words, and others who spoke them, were ignored and suppressed. Though I pretty much completely lack a temper, this one would almost overwhelm me with anger if it didn't make me so completely sad.

Bill said...

I don't disagree with your distaste for Rove and Libby. Nor am I immune to the desire you have to "get them." But getting Rove or Libbey for "outing" Valerie Plame (or more likely for disclosing classified info or for obstructing the investigation into whether they outed Valerie Plame) is like sending Al Capone to jail for tax evasion. Except that the investigation and indictment of Al Capone did not threaten to paralyze our government.

We need to accept a certain level of veniality in our politicians and confine our investigations to situations where it seems likely that they did something truly bad. One knew at the outset that outing Valerie Plame, even if it could be proved, was not much of a crime. So, we should just have let it go.

(The fact that they were going after a critic of the Administration -- a critic who was right -- doesn't change things, since that is not a crime. That is a good reason to try to make sure people like this never again get political power, but it is not a basis for indicting them -- sadly.)

Just as I condemn the hounding that Clinton took over Monica, I also condemn the hounding Rove and Libby are taking over Valerie Plame. Neither one of these "crimes" is worth the costs to the contry that are entailed in proving them. We need a principle we can apply to those we don't like if we are to protect those we do.

Anonymous said...

Bill, how can you state that it is not a basis for indicting them? This is a crime and therefore they should be punished for what was probably a complete mis-use of power. Unfortunatley our society is full of those ready and willing to excuse this type of behavior as the "norm" rather than addressing it as what it actually is...a crime. And by the way "outing" Valerie probably cost you and I as tax payers several million dollars in covert cover expenses and potentially endangered the lives of foreign nationals and NOCs abroad...but it wasn't that big of a deal..right?

Bill said...

I'm not sure what "it" refers to in the first sentence, but assume it refers to the outing of Valerie Plame. If so, then, my guess is that "it" was NOT a crime, since the statute making outing of covert agents a crime does so only when the person revealing the identity knows the operative is covert. It is not enough that the "outer" knows the person works for the CIA. He/she has to know that the person is a secret agent. If Rove and Libby had such knowledge, then yes, they should be prosecuted. But I doubt seriously that they did and if they didn't then outing Valerie, however despicable it may have been, was not a crime.

Nor, perhaps sadly, are "abuse of power" or waste of taxpayer dollars crimes.

More broadly, though, I take issue with your implicit assertion that all crimes should be punished. Driving 61 mph in a 60 mph speed zone is a crime, yet I know of no one who would approve of punishing that crime. It is a crime to knowingly provide false information on an application for a driver's license renewal. Yet who among us over-40 types can resist shaving a few pounds off what we know to be our true weights. Some acts that might arguably be "criminal" are simply too trivial to warrant prosecution. That fact is the very essence of prosecutorial discretion: the discretion of the prosecutor as the representative of the State to decide that the particular facts of a case do not warrant prosecution even though those acts might technically be "criminal."

This guy Fitzgerald is pretty widely respected, so there is some possibility that he actually has something worth prosecuting. But my bet is that if Libby or Rove is indicted, it will be becuase he shaded the truth or impeded the investigation in some sense. I am not saying that these kinds of crimes do not warrant prosecution in some cases, but I will not be surprised if the perjury/obstruction of justice charges that come out of this case are very much like those brought against Clinton for his Monica Lewinsky testimony. And, if so, I will have the same reaction: "If that's all there is, why are you wasting our time?"

Bill said...

It's not a question of whether the crime is "real". The question is whether, even if "real," it is sufficiently serious to be worth punishing. And, on that score, the prosecutor gets to decide initially, and the jury in the end (e.g. via jury nullification).

These kinds of cases present very close calls and as such cannot be addressed in the one-size-fits-all manner that is the necessary characteristic of written statutes. In particular cases, judgment is required and judgment can only be exercised by humans. The trouble, though, is that when the target is highly controversial, political factors enter into the judgment, and people end up getting prosecuted and convicted for things that ordinary people would not. That, it seems to me, is wrong, for in the end you are actually prosecuting them for being controversial.

Martha Stewart is great example. She was initially investigated for insider trading. They could not make that stick, so they charged her with lying to the FBI. She probably was guilty of that, but do you really think that ALL lies to the FBI are worthy of jail time or even prosecution? And, do you believe Martha would have even been investigated, to say nothing of prosecuted, if she had not been Martha Stewart?

Did Martha commit a "real" crime? Almost certainly. Was the crime so serious that it warranted a criminal prosecution? I don't think so.

BTW: Do I know you?

Anonymous said...

It looks to me like Fitzgerald is the man who can start pulling on a few loose ends of this administrative tangle we're in. His investigation has already begun shedding light on a much, much bigger picture. The Plame/Wilson family have suffered a great deal, but might end up acting as the tipping point that starts the cascade of events that will yoink the mighty boondogle. I mean, one might question Libby and Rove's guilt (technically) but NO ONE will ever find them innocent, certainly.

Anonymous said...

I dont how anyone can conclude outing a classified status CIA is not a crime.

Here, lets look at it this way. Suppose Mrs. Wilson was vulnerable at the time of her outing? Suppose she was murdered just after this information became public domain? What would you infer then? Coincidental accidental bullet wound to the back of the head? Would you think the same? That "outing" a classified or otherwise CIA is not a crime?

Pat Fitzgerald said it best today. This not only hurt "Ms. Plame" and Mr. Wilson, this hurt everybody. The CIA exists to protect Americans from threats abroad. They are there to throw wrenches into the gears of machines that wish to bring the US to its knees. That may sound overly dramatic but, its true.

Look, the CIA has a job to do and White House goobers like Libby and Rove should NEVER EVER EVER be allowed to have access to or be priveledged to divulge ANY information regarding CIA operatives or CIA operations. I dont care who they are staffing.

These dingbats in the White House only knew that she belonged to WINPAC (its basically the division for anti-proliferation of WMD). They didnt know what she was working on or if she was working at all. And no one would know except her and her superiors. My point is Libby, Rove and the VP, for that matter, only knew she gave her husbands name for the fact finding mission that he went on. For them to "punish" Joe Wilson by "outing" his wife was not only irresponsible, it was short-sighted and stupid. Why not just dig around on Joe? Why would you purposely expose a CIA operative working in the context of something as important as WMD? We will never know the truth in this case because Libby will plea bargain.